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Re: L' trains
Posted by:
WayOutWardell
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Date: September 10, 2015 11:37PM
The decision to build a new Morgan Street station on the Green Line is baffling - the Halsted stop was closed in the '90s. It still seems to me that Halsted is a better transit interchange.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: September 11, 2015 12:09AM
WayOutWardell Wrote:
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> The decision to build a new Morgan Street station
> on the Green Line is baffling - the Halsted stop
> was closed in the '90s. It still seems to me that
> Halsted is a better transit interchange.
Harpo Studios, right there. And when Oprah sells the building, the new owner has ready access.
I worked two blocks west of there, from 2007 to 2010.
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> The decision to build a new Morgan Street station
> on the Green Line is baffling - the Halsted stop
> was closed in the '90s. It still seems to me that
> Halsted is a better transit interchange.
Harpo Studios, right there. And when Oprah sells the building, the new owner has ready access.
I worked two blocks west of there, from 2007 to 2010.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
the_mogra
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Date: September 11, 2015 12:02PM
the new greenline MORGAN street 'L' station has a plaque stating it was built by the CDOT Chicago Department Of Transportation
Was the original Halsted station eliminated at the time the greenline was shut-down and rebuilt by the federal gov't in the early '90s? I forget.
Personally I prefer the Morgan St stop location, having used it myself. Though obviously it's not the spiffiest transfer point for the Halsted bus.
In a way it reminds me of the Conservatory stop replacing the old Homan stop.
I used that Homan stop in the late '50s and recall its black pot-bellied stove heating the ticket office during the wintertime
Was the original Halsted station eliminated at the time the greenline was shut-down and rebuilt by the federal gov't in the early '90s? I forget.
Personally I prefer the Morgan St stop location, having used it myself. Though obviously it's not the spiffiest transfer point for the Halsted bus.
In a way it reminds me of the Conservatory stop replacing the old Homan stop.
I used that Homan stop in the late '50s and recall its black pot-bellied stove heating the ticket office during the wintertime
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: September 20, 2015 10:53PM
If I remember correctly, the Halsted station was removed as part of the Green Line rebuild.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: September 23, 2015 12:32AM
Oh, those pot-bellied coal stoves were ubiquitous in all older L stations.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: September 24, 2015 05:19PM
Regarding low-usage closures, one might question why the elevated was left intact from the south State Street Subway portal to Wabash and Van Buren. Having an extra access line would be the most logical reason, but then that might also have argued for leaving the Logan Square L in place to Lake, and connecting into Paulina Junction from the north/
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
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Date: September 25, 2015 11:03PM
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Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: September 28, 2015 01:50AM
the_mogra Wrote:
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> CTA in the '70s closes old Cermak 'L' stop on the
> greenline, citing 'low useage'. right.
>
> almost 40 years later they rebuild that Cermak
> stop and reopen - now things are different.
> right.
>
> I recall the Grand Ave stop on the blueline subway
> went through the same metamorphosis in the early
> '90s. right.
>
> If one wants to point out an extreme example the
> new Oakton stop on the yellow line had a previous
> life too.
>
> Understanding all this by you/me takes an acute
> perception of bureaucratic agency nonsense. It's
> not all about the money, it's just what people
> want to do and will foist on you at various points
> in time.
One thing they need at the Grand Avenue stop is a new stairway on the SW corner of Halsted and Grand, so you can come up to the EB. bus stop.
Maybe later...
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> CTA in the '70s closes old Cermak 'L' stop on the
> greenline, citing 'low useage'. right.
>
> almost 40 years later they rebuild that Cermak
> stop and reopen - now things are different.
> right.
>
> I recall the Grand Ave stop on the blueline subway
> went through the same metamorphosis in the early
> '90s. right.
>
> If one wants to point out an extreme example the
> new Oakton stop on the yellow line had a previous
> life too.
>
> Understanding all this by you/me takes an acute
> perception of bureaucratic agency nonsense. It's
> not all about the money, it's just what people
> want to do and will foist on you at various points
> in time.
One thing they need at the Grand Avenue stop is a new stairway on the SW corner of Halsted and Grand, so you can come up to the EB. bus stop.
Maybe later...
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
the_mogra
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Date: September 28, 2015 12:23PM
I totally agree about the need for another Grand Ave station entrance.
"one might question why the elevated was left intact from the south State Street Subway portal to Wabash and Van Buren." - yes, the CTA did something right for a change, didn't they? That elevated portion went unused for years, was it from late-'40s / early-'50s to 1970 when the Dan Ryan tracks first opened? Or maybe the old North Shore line used them (for storage?), or a portion of them, up to 1963 when they tanked.
"one might question why the elevated was left intact from the south State Street Subway portal to Wabash and Van Buren." - yes, the CTA did something right for a change, didn't they? That elevated portion went unused for years, was it from late-'40s / early-'50s to 1970 when the Dan Ryan tracks first opened? Or maybe the old North Shore line used them (for storage?), or a portion of them, up to 1963 when they tanked.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: September 28, 2015 01:13PM
the_mogra Wrote:
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> I totally agree about the need for another Grand
> Ave station entrance.
>
> "one might question why the elevated was left
> intact from the south State Street Subway portal
> to Wabash and Van Buren." - yes, the CTA did
> something right for a change, didn't they? That
> elevated portion went unused for years, was it
> from late-'40s / early-'50s to 1970 when the Dan
> Ryan tracks first opened? Or maybe the old North
> Shore line used them (for storage?), or a portion
> of them, up to 1963 when they tanked.
The CNS&M in fact did use them for storage. They berthed their cars south of Roosevelt, just above the south portal of the State Street Subway. I remember seeing them up until they ended service in 1963, when we took the L up to Lakeview to visit my grandparents.
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> I totally agree about the need for another Grand
> Ave station entrance.
>
> "one might question why the elevated was left
> intact from the south State Street Subway portal
> to Wabash and Van Buren." - yes, the CTA did
> something right for a change, didn't they? That
> elevated portion went unused for years, was it
> from late-'40s / early-'50s to 1970 when the Dan
> Ryan tracks first opened? Or maybe the old North
> Shore line used them (for storage?), or a portion
> of them, up to 1963 when they tanked.
The CNS&M in fact did use them for storage. They berthed their cars south of Roosevelt, just above the south portal of the State Street Subway. I remember seeing them up until they ended service in 1963, when we took the L up to Lakeview to visit my grandparents.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
the_mogra
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Date: September 28, 2015 02:22PM
so those tracks had no purposeful usage 1963 - 1970, it would seem
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: September 28, 2015 02:39PM
the_mogra Wrote:
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> so those tracks had no purposeful usage 1963 -
> 1970, it would seem
Other than as an emergency route around the State Street Subway, and for equipment moves, yeah.
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> so those tracks had no purposeful usage 1963 -
> 1970, it would seem
Other than as an emergency route around the State Street Subway, and for equipment moves, yeah.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
the_mogra
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Date: September 28, 2015 03:25PM
During those years I never saw train cars on them. As I said it's a good thing the CTA hesitated in their usual rush to dismantle (as I see it, they weren't absolutely necessary for equipment move purposes, you could accomplish the same thing via ravenswood tracks)
Re: L' trains
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Date: September 28, 2015 04:56PM
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Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: September 29, 2015 03:50AM
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Re: L' trains
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Date: September 30, 2015 04:45PM
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Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
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Date: January 11, 2016 03:55AM
That reminds me: does anyone know which Metra line runs past O'Hare? Maybe that could be an express route.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Dunning1
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Date: January 12, 2016 01:29PM
It's the Metra North Central Line. I am looking at it out of my office window. There are stops both in Rosemont (at Balmoral) and at O'Hare Transfer, just south of Higgins Road.
Re: L' trains
Posted by:
Jeff_Weiner
(---.sub-70-194-72.myvzw.com)
Date: January 12, 2016 05:08PM
Dunning1 Wrote:
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> It's the Metra North Central Line. I am looking
> at it out of my office window. There are stops
> both in Rosemont (at Balmoral) and at O'Hare
> Transfer, just south of Higgins Road.
Ok, now all we need to do is figure a way to connect it to the "superstation" under Block 37, and electrify it!
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> It's the Metra North Central Line. I am looking
> at it out of my office window. There are stops
> both in Rosemont (at Balmoral) and at O'Hare
> Transfer, just south of Higgins Road.
Ok, now all we need to do is figure a way to connect it to the "superstation" under Block 37, and electrify it!
